and optimistic that we're going to get an agreement in the very near future and resolve this crisis in the best interest of the american people. >> you hear confidence there from the republican leader in the senate, similar confidence from the speaker of the house, both republican leaders. it sounds like the democratic leaders after the white house meeting, not as happy. former speaker, now majority leader in the house, nancy pelosi, did not say anything to reporters on her way back into the capitol. senator harry reid said the answer is are we closer to a deal, the answer is no. so that's a very different contrast, if you will, from the different leaders here on capitol hill, arthel. >> arthel: and mike, i know you're out there collecting information. what i was talking about at the top is that senator reid has just made a procedural motion that's going to require all members to go back to the chamber, usually speaks after this sort of thing, takes about 20 minutes, if he does, we'll bring it live.